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Friend: Arias cried on phone night body found

  • Jodi Arias claims she killed her ex-boyfriend in self-defense
  • Friend & former roommate of Travis Alexander speaks
  • Watch “HLN After Dark: The Jodi Arias Trial” at 10pm on HLN

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In an exclusive interview with HLN’s Nancy Grace, one of Travis Alexander’s former roommates, Shaun Alexander, spoke out for the very first time Tuesday night about a phone call from a sobbing Jodi Arias the night Alexander’s dead body was found slumped over in his shower.

“We got called real late to go over to Travis’ house,” Shaun recalled, “and my best friend Brint Hiatt was there and he kept getting phone calls over and over again from Jodi…He answered the phone, put her on speakerphone, and me and my wife and he were just sitting there listening to her and she was just sobbing, ‘What’s going on? What’s happened? Nobody will tell me anything. Nobody’s telling me anything. What’s happening? Is Travis dead? I hear he’s dead, they’re saying he’s dead. They won’t tell me anything.’”  

Shaun said before he heard Jodi Arias hysterical on the phone he had suspicions she might have been involved in the murder, but after hearing how upset she sounded, he believed her.

“That’s the kind of scariest part about her, I guess, is that she’s very calculating, manipulative, and very believable,” said Shaun. “She’s good at lying.”

According to Shaun, he had a bad feeling about Jodi Arias the first time they met when she accompanied Travis Alexander to a wedding.

“She was sitting in a corner by herself and then she sees me talking to Travis and comes over and she was weird, hanging all over him, kissing his ears,” he said. “I was just like, who is this?  She's busy sucking on his ear and it was just really strange. She wanted to pull him away from me as fast as possible. I got a really bad first vibe. Everything about her was inappropriate. Sucking on his ear at a church wedding reception? It was odd and inappropriate.”

Grace asked Shaun what he thought about Arias’ claims that Alexander looked at child porn.

“You know disgusted is one word, appalled, just pissed beyond belief,” he responded. “It’s so ridiculous that you can’t even put it into words, to be honest. There’s no way, there’s no possible way. If you knew Travis at all, there’s not a chance in the world that he’s doing anything ridiculous like that.”

And Shaun said he isn’t buying Arias’ claim of self-defense either: “One, it's ridiculous, two, it's ridiculous, and three, it's ridiculous.  It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If her argument was that he was attacking her because she dropped his camera, you have this naked guy chasing you around the house. If you loved him and didn't want to hurt him, all you're going to do is try and get away. You're not going to brutally murder him in such a way that most people can't even stomach the thought of killing someone.  If that's not a sheer act of rage, I don't know what is.  It’s crazy to think it was self-defense on any level.”

Also crazy, according to Shaun—who was in the courtroom while the accused killer was on the witness stand—is believing any of Arias’ testimony.

“You could just feel the BS the whole time,” he said. “That's what it felt like. She's so full of it, it's not even funny. She will say anything and do anything to get this jury to side with her.  She's not this soccer mom with the brown hair and the glasses and the bangs, that wasn't you. You were this blond bombshell who used to suck on his ear in the middle of a church wedding. Everything about her felt fake and calculated.  Even the tears felt calculated and planned out and fake.”

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