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Arias jurors 6 and 17: Jodi deserved death

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  • Jodi Arias was convicted of first-degree murder in the death of her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander
  • Both jurors said Arias showed no signs of remorse
  • They describe their emotions during the victim impact statements
Arias jurors 6 and 17: Jodi deserved death

Arias jurors talk voting for death

Arias jurors talk voting for death

Revelations from the Arias jury room

Revelations from the Arias jury room

Two of the women that had been sitting on the Jodi Arias jury for the last five months broke their silence on HLN’s Dr. Drew On Call Tuesday night.

Juror No. 6 Diane Schwartz and alternate Juror No. 17 Tara Kelley both made clear that they neither believed Arias’ story, nor did they ever see her show any kind of remorse in the brutal killing of her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander.

Schwartz, who voted for death during the sentencing phase, explained, “You need to be held accountable for your actions. The day it was turned over to us for the penalty phase, I went home and spent the whole night assessing how I could do it -- if I could say she should be put to death -- and I got to that answer.  It was definitely looking at all of the aggravating factors that were part of that crime -- the brutality of it, the lack remorse and the untruthfulness of it all the way through.”

Kelley agreed, adding that just observing Arias’ demeanor in court made her believe that something wasn’t quite right with the 32-year-old premeditated murderer.

“You should be engaged in what's going on,” she said. “She wasn't even interested in what was happening in her own trial.”

Kelley, who also stated that she would have given Arias death, noted that she took time after being officially dismissed from the case to watch some of the interrogation tapes from 2008, mentioning how she found one part particularly troubling.

“When she was saying, ‘Gosh, Jodi, you should have put on your makeup at least,’ or however she said that -- To me, it was very disturbing," she said. "That showed a lot that that she didn't have any kind of remorse for anything that happened."

Kelley also revealed that she was the juror who asked Arias some of the more provocative questions during her 18 days on the stand, including the one that read, "After all the lies you told, why should we believe you now?”

"I, personally, did not believe her," she expressed. "So I wanted to see what kind of answer she would really give us."

Later in the interview, both women described how difficult it was getting through the victim impact statements. Schwartz admitted that she mouthed the words "I’m sorry" when it was announced that the jury could not reach a unanimous decision. She said she felt strongly that the Alexander family wanted Arias to get the death penalty.

“We were very invested in this … I was so committed to making sure that we could work and to not be able to come to a consensus and actually issue a unanimous verdict in the penalty phase -- I took it very personally,” Schwartz said.

The jurors deliberated for nearly 14 hours over the span of three days, but Judge Sherry Stephens declared a mistrial in the sentencing phase. The new penalty phase with a new jury is scheduled for July 18.

“I don't fully understand how they're going to present all of the information [to the new jury], but I'm hopeful that people can be very objective and look at aggravating and mitigating factors and give us a verdict,” Schwartz said.

Kelley and Schwartz and agreed that if Arias doesn’t get the death penalty, they won’t be dissatisfied with her getting life in prison.
 
“We have to make sure that she's treated within our criminal justice system fairly,” Schwartz stated.  ”Personally, I feel a little disappointment, but I know we've done our job as jurors.”

Arias' first-degree murder conviction still stands, as does the jurors decision that Travis Alexander’s murder was “especially cruel,” which was an aggravating factor that made Arias eligible for the death penalty.

A status hearing will be held on June 20 to better understand what kind of preparations attorneys have made for the new phase of the trial.

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